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my friends made me watch legend - which i always avoided as i have always disliked tom cruise. but i was wrong. i loved this move. and most of all, i loved gump. he was amazing. his acting was perfect plus the character reminded me of Puck/Midsummer, which is a favorite of mine. fairies are ageless, i suppose, but he looked 12 and i was in awe of a 12 year old who could act that well. he certainly "acted" a lot older than he looked. turns out he was 19 when he made that movie - so he was older than he looked. which was kind of a relief. not that this is a full fledge crush, more of an awe of the character. but still...

does this LOOK like 19 to you?
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herzograven
Oct. 20th, 2007 07:05 am (UTC)
hehe, funny you wouldn't watch LEGEND cause of MAJOR TOM ... hehe
he is a jackass ... but he's done a number of movies that were very good ..

i saw legend RIGHT after Fellowship and as a fantasy vs. fantasy movie comparison... Legend flat out SUCKED! ... and i'm not just talking about visuals and the fancy glitter that goes into films today, but then again we are talking about LORD OF THE FUCKING RINGS! ..... it was unfair for me to compare anything to LOTR (ROTJ, ROTC, etc. hihi) .... so i had to rewatch Legend (with the european! soundtrack, cause that 80s synthesizer shit was just awful!)

but needless to say, it's a decent film .... some of the acting is obviously bad, and the girl ... princes Lily or whatever her name is ..... was a dumb bitch! .... i mean her stupidity was just beyond me .... "don't touch the unicorns!" .... "bad shit happens when you do that" .... someone her age should really get that concept! ... but then again if she didn't mess up there wouldn't be a journey to save her dumbass! .... hehe

I do love tim curry's DARKNESS .... i mean holy SHIT! ... nothing else ... he TOTALLY rocked that role watching him, for even a short while was totally awesomelicious
sarahtoalaska
Oct. 20th, 2007 05:09 pm (UTC)
You watched Legend After LOTRs?? What were you thinking? I've always thought she was kind of a twit. I love that movie. LOVE Tim Curry, but.... it was made in the 80's. Some special crap came out then.
April... I can't believe you never saw it. I mean, that's the one think I like Cruise in. God love you.
herzograven
Oct. 21st, 2007 01:28 pm (UTC)
YOU guys were the one who showed it to me 48 hours after lord of the rings ... hehe
well it was a mutual agreement between you, michelle and your husband to torture me with that major tom 80s crap... hehe :D

as for Lily in Legend .... i would have shot her down before she did what she did ... but i guess that would finish the story a little bit sooner ..... kinda like in "28 weeks later" totally pointless sequel .... really forced out of the writers ass or written at gunpoint ..... cause man it was BAD! ..... especially since people hyped it up for me ... and said it was better than "planet terror" ..... jesus it was BAD!!! ....... if you've seen "28 days later" ..... stop there! ..... that film's good enough .... and we should leave it at where it was ...... but i wouldn't be surprised if 28 months later comes out in 2010!

sorry ..... got sidetracked again .... hehe

but yes .... some special things came out back then .... at least they were fun .... now 90% of the shit that comes out is just STUPID ..... and political correctness has something to do with that .... that's why i do my best to be politically incorrect all the time .... hehe

as for not having seen legend
well i still haven't seen:

- Wall Street
- Ferris Bueller's Day Off
- Rudy
- Universal Soldier
- Karate Kid II
- Fatal Attraction
- Basic Instinct
- Willow

just to name a few!
madladyred
Oct. 21st, 2007 11:15 pm (UTC)
she was an okay hero! and WILLOW is one of my Favorites!!!
i didn't show it to you! i've never seen Legend before!
maybe i was out of town? i know john loved that movie so i could see him wanting someone to see it :)

Lily wasn't as bad as some heroines i've seen. she may have caused the trouble and done some stupid things but she didn't panic very often, she didn't scream and run like a useless girl (and break a heel in the process), she didn't wait around for someone to rescue her or even say someone was coming for her, plus she ended up tricking him and freeing the unicorn in the end so she was pretty strong compared to Disney's Little Mermaid or Buttercup from the Princess Bride (still love that movie, but she was TOTALLY useless). grrrr there other girls that i have currently forgotten. even the girls in LOTR were a bit useless until Tolkein's daughter complained and he created Eowyn.

overall i would actually give Lilly a 6 on the hero-girl scale.

i haven't seen Wall Street, Rudy, Universityal Soldier, Karte Kidd II, Fatal Atraction, or Basic Instinct, either!! ha! i'm not so bad after all!!
sarahtoalaska
Oct. 22nd, 2007 06:00 am (UTC)
Re: she was an okay hero! and WILLOW is one of my Favorites!!!
Yeah, Lily could have been worse. I thought it was cool she went 'evil' for a little while. Not normal at all for that kind of charicter.
herzograven
Oct. 26th, 2007 03:04 pm (UTC)
Re: she was an okay hero! and WILLOW is one of my Favorites!!!
Haven't seen Willow, and what I disliked about Lily weren't things restricted to a heroin, but a film character, period. She was TOLD not to do something, and there she goes and does it, even if a male character were to do that, that just makes me wanna kill them. Life is good because certain things fell into a certain order of events and if you disrupt that cycle of life, then you deserve to die, hehe. Yes, I know, I'm harsh, but that's how my film characters will kick the bucket, when they do something that they were TOLD a million times not to do!

I look at Lily as more of a damsel in distress than a heroin, yea she distracted Darkness or whatever, but that's the least she could've done after creating such chaos.

As for Female vs. Male hero/in characters in films, unfortunately most stories have male lead characters, and that is VERY unfortunate since I honestly believe that females can kick more ass than male. That is why we are insane fans of kickass female characters such as Ellen Ripley, Zoë Washburne, Princess Leia Organa, etc. If anyone's seen a film called "Undead" there is one hell of a character in the film named "Rene" (played by the amazingly hot Felicity Mason), and she is one hell of a heroin who definitely lives up to the others I've mentioned. From the very begingin, every time she senses trouble, she grabs "something/anything" to defend herself with, and if she can extend it and make a more dangerous weapons out of it, she will, and I LOVE that logic in characters, much like Prince Leah, who was the only one in the original Star Wars trilogy who was able to make every shot count and not miss a thousand times.

That is why I was insanely disappointed with the film "The Descent", they had an ALL female lead and the film premiss was just unbelievably amazing (at least when I first heard about it), when I watched the film, it had the worst character development and 40 minutes into the film I didn't care who lives and who died.

I agree with LOTR, even though I haven't read the books, the story could've used a lot more females than they had, but then again the "real" fans would bitch until no tomorrow that it was "inaccurate". However, *highfive* to Peter Jackson for using female actors to film A LOT of horse chase scenes, since they had a kickass team of female riders, that I think is super cool!

Ok, I'm gonna stop here before I say too much that may bore people into a deep sleep, hehe.
sarahtoalaska
Oct. 22nd, 2007 05:58 am (UTC)
well... I would see Willow.... yeah that's about it. Karate Kid 2 was cute.... but you know it was that time period. I totally don't remember making you see Legend. What were we thinking?
madladyred
Oct. 21st, 2007 11:26 pm (UTC)
i missed it somehow - which surprises me as well. maybe i was afraid of the Darkness charcter and thought it was a horror movie from the poster.

i agree she was twitish - but what did you think about my comment to Raven (pasted below). Michelle and I were talking about whether or not Lilly was a hero or a twit - it's hard to decide. but I think i've seen lots worse than her so i'm okay with her overall...

MY COMMENT TO RAVEN: Lily wasn't as bad as some heroines i've seen. she may have caused the trouble and done some stupid things but she didn't panic very often, she didn't scream and run like a useless girl (and break a heel in the process), she didn't wait around for someone to rescue her or even say someone was coming for her, plus she ended up tricking him and freeing the unicorn in the end so she was pretty strong compared to Disney's Little Mermaid or Buttercup from the Princess Bride (still love that movie, but she was TOTALLY useless). grrrr there other girls that i have currently forgotten. even the girls in LOTR were a bit useless until Tolkein's daughter complained and he created Eowyn.

overall i would actually give Lilly a 6 on the hero-girl scale.
sarahtoalaska
Oct. 22nd, 2007 06:01 am (UTC)
Ack... I don't even want to talk about the LOTR females. don't remember them doing anything interesting in the books.
herzograven
Oct. 26th, 2007 03:14 pm (UTC)
Ugh, Disney characters, two reasons I strongly dislike most Disney films:

1. Disney characters are pretty damn stupid, and not just the females, I understand most of their films are aimed at children, but if you show to children that it's alright to screw up and someone else will fix it, then we've got a problem, wait ... that's exactly the problem we have!!!

2. Disney has taken ancient stories (Aladdin, Snow White, etc.) and turned it into CRAP. Given that Aladdin is my favourite of all the Disney film, I still hated the changes they made from the original story to make it more child friendly. Alright, I don't want them showing people being stabbed and killed, and massacred in a child's story, but at least give it some sort of a darker edge to show how bad D'Jaffar (actual spelling) really was. Not to mention the whole limitation to "three" wishes, it's UNLIMITED wishes damn it! (ok, getting side tracked again!)

But yes, I dislike Disney, I know to most people that's unimaginable, but I've disliked their changes since I was 9, which is when I first compared the original "Snow White" to Disney's version.

Buttercup, hehe, even though it was really funny how over the top she was (along with all the other characters in that film) it did annoy me how dumb she was ... I mean ... wow, say no more, hehe.
supergoober
Oct. 21st, 2007 06:50 pm (UTC)
You were not wrong about Tom Cruise. After the movie came out, he called it "a big mistake" and "the worst movie [he'd] ever made." So please do go back to hating him now.
madladyred
Oct. 21st, 2007 11:24 pm (UTC)
Continuing to hate tom cruise... Check!
LOL! I didn't stop!! He was a necessary evil to bare in order to see the rest of the movie. :)

Although I must say that he did okay in Legend. I like that he and the fairies tilted their heads like animals when they looked at things.

His character seemed so simple (as in Samwise simple, not easy) in Legend. I couldn't figure out what he was at first - a farily, a changling, a lost-child. But he grew on me enough to want his character to turn out okay in the end.

I don't know why I dislike TC so much! I mean, I know why I continue to dislike him, but my initial dislike confuses me. It predates all the stupid things he's done (vitimins/Brooke Sheilds, his marriage, etc). I've disliked him since Risky Business. And I never even saw Risky Business - I avoided it because he was in it and I didn't like him from the commercials.
madladyred
Oct. 22nd, 2007 03:29 am (UTC)
Re: Continuing to hate tom cruise... Check!
Apologies for the crack monkey spelling and grammar. I was rushing to post before heading out. Apparently taking 5 seconds to spell check and proofread was out of the question.

Though I like "farily". I may have to make up a definition and start using that.
sarahtoalaska
Oct. 22nd, 2007 06:03 am (UTC)
Re: Continuing to hate tom cruise... Check!
That movie is the one thing I like him in. I actually thought he was cute in it.
herzograven
Oct. 26th, 2007 03:24 pm (UTC)
Re: Continuing to hate tom cruise... Check!
Major Tom: man he's a total jerk, I mean Paramount told him to piss off, I don't think I've ever heard of that before! Nevertheless, he's a very good actor, I will have to admit that. I used to hate his acting until I saw him in "Interview With the Vampire" and Mission: Impossible", those were such drastic characters, he really did impress me there. The reason I hated him was because of Top Gun, and Days of Thunder, those films gave me a massive headache. I know Wright would disagree because one is about "air planes" and one is about "cars", but that was the very reason I hated those two films (even though I never did get to finish them and WON'T finish them cause I have better things to do!).

Few Good Men, Minority Report, Vanilla Sky, Far & Away, Last Samurai were actually pretty good films (by Hollywood standards anyway), and Cruise played his characters really well in it. Val Kilmer and Russle Crowe are such big assholes (so I have been told by people who actually have worked with them), yet they have portrayed some really good characters and delivered some really good films (Crowe not as much, I find him a little too overrated).

But going back to the whole "person/great actor"argument, some people just let talent get to their head, I mean look at comic book artists, the ones you think will be jerks are really cool guys and great artists, and the ones you think would be cool are total jerks and useless wanna be artists (*cough*ben*cough*hunziikkki*cough).

=)
madladyred
Oct. 29th, 2007 12:33 am (UTC)
Re: Continuing to hate tom cruise... Check!
uuuuuuuummmmmmm

okay,

i admit to liking Far and Away.
but i'll credit Irish Accents, Irish Countryside, and Nicole Kidman???

LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLbenLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLOL

and you are right that there is a separation between good acting and good people which normally I can handle but for some reason I have an intense reaction to Tom. odd.

and Khaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!! :)
sidkuhn
Oct. 22nd, 2007 09:06 pm (UTC)
That reminded me of one of my favorite Rocky Horror lines.. As RifRaf hands Frankie (Tim Curry) a drink, I scream:

"Here, Tim, drink this.. It will make you Big and Horny like you were in Legend!!"
madladyred
Oct. 24th, 2007 01:56 am (UTC)
ooooooh - that makes much more sense now! i haven't seen Rocky Horror in so long:)
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